Ignorance is all. Once you get the chance to travel, you’re eyes open a little more and it’s something that I would never trade.
Another thing I’ve become abundantly clear on, Americans are easily the most ignorant country around the world. I think that’s a by-product of being the greatest country on Earth with literally unlimited opportunities.
My man! Huge high five brother!
Same here. My grandmother passed away at 45 from heart disease. Never met her.
Haha, I don’t care bro. We’re all free to have different opinions and express em!
Show me concrete proof this has happened in any substantial way and I’ll believe you. Until then it’s just a conspiracy bolstered by YouTube quacks who profit off likes the same exact way people kicking their friends in the nuts profit on YouTube. I have seen ZERO hard evidence that numbers have been inflated and the vast majority of doctors and scientists think numbers are even higher than what is reported.
Like I said, if you have real hard proof that numbers are being inflated, I’d love to see it.
Nice! Fully agree you gotta get out there to see all the blessings Americans take for granted
Life experience is never a waste brother.
I get what you’re saying, but again, saying you believe the numbers are inaccurate without any proof to support that falls in the “hunch” category. I got lots of hunches (bunches of hunches?) but I don’t make potentially life or death medical decisions based on them and I try not to persuade others that they are facts. But c’est la vie
Locking down at the beginning made sense to me. We had no idea what this thing was, no idea how to fight it and our hospitals were immediately overflowing. After that initial wave lockdowns didn’t make sense and I can’t see them coming back unless something crazy happens (knock on wood). The lockdowns SUCKED! Mandates SUCK! But so do global pandemics and losing so many family and loved ones. This whole thing has been a nightmare, and I really wish it had never been so politicized. I also pray omicron is something we can just live with.
Sidenote: I’ve been living in Mexico the past 5 months and where I live everyone wears masks and they do temp checks and 89% of the people are vaccinated and there have been 5-10 cases a day in the entire state. Empty hospitals. I find it hard to believe that the masks and vaccination rate have nothing to do with that as the US is currently averaging nearly 200,000 cases a day. But that’s essentially anecdotal evidence of course.
Absofukinlutely
What part of Mexico are you living.
Quintana Roo
Hahahhha Mexico :biglaugh:
Haha, LiteSiteNews? Where do you even find these radical right wing propaganda sites? On social media?
If the quotes are accurate, what difference does it make? I was reading the comments after the article, seemed to be a religious bend from those responding.
David Oliver: Mistruths and misunderstandings about covid-19 death numbers
This article mentions a few details in what I’m referring to. While it has the intent to remind everyone the seriousness of COVID in general, the author addresses some of the concerns regarding reporting.
- 90% of deaths counted among COVID, had block 1 (on the coroner’s form) listed with COVID. That is the main cause of death and/or largely contributing factor. Doesn’t really explain the additional 10%.
- COVID could still be added to death up to (and in some cases passed) 28 days after testing positive. Author also sites that 31% of hospital admissions are readmitted with 9% of those dying.
- author acknowledges the initial counts having accuracy issues (no specific numbers) because testing was limited as a whole and the PCR test having up to 29% false positives.
Fact check: 94% of individuals with additional causes of death still had COVID-19
This is an old article (sep 20) but does help explain where some of the mistrust comes from on the actual determining factor of death. Not disputing their false claim on 6% as COVID deaths, the number is clearly higher than that, so I agree with the intent of the article disputing that statements being shared as “false”.
The authors do mention the various subjectivity in determining the cause though. While they agree only 6% (at that time) had ONLY COVID listed as death cause, it covers the various other conditions that can play various amounts of impact with COVID on top of it.
I only think they bean counters should take a look at the average heart disease, diabetes, whatever else deaths, and at least put the numbers together that of those 800K, the likelihood is that Xx amount would have likely died (per averages) without COVID too. I see that as a little disingenuous to count them as COVID deaths.
We Could Be Vastly Overestimating the Death Rate for COVID-19 — Here's Why - Our World
Another old article but important regarding how the initial outbreak was being calculated which I believe strongly played into overreactions.
Bottom line, we know asymptomatic people weren’t necessarily tested, so never counted including people who may have called to say they had symptoms but followed dr discretion and just stayed home until better (example in article). Because these were not factored in, the mortality rate was likely pushed as much higher than actual.
Fact check: Changes to the counting of COVID-19 deaths in August reduced England’s death toll
Another article regarding how numbers were reported. England admitted that people died and were marked as a COVID death almost indefinitely after the positive test. This process was changed in Aug 21. Not a dishonest effort (I think) but protocol changed, still following the idea of a positive test w/in 28 days being marked a COVID death. While I say that still leads to additional inaccurate numbers, it more accurate than before, so dr/nurses were not lying, but numbers may have been inflated.
N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count (Published 2020)
While this doesn’t explain why they added 3700 deaths, it’s a completely subjective addition inconsistent with all locations and the reporting protocols. I’m no dr, I’m sure they can make a legit guess that someone may have died from COVID, but without a positive test, it legit isnt proved and people are making decisions that affect everyone off these numbers.
This article mentions a few details in what I’m referring to. While it has the intent to remind everyone the seriousness of COVID in general, the author addresses some of the concerns regarding reporting.
- 90% of deaths counted among COVID, had block 1 (on the coroner’s form) listed with COVID. That is the main cause of death and/or largely contributing factor. Doesn’t really explain the additional 10%.
- COVID could still be added to death up to (and in some cases passed) 28 days after testing positive. Author also sites that 31% of hospital admissions are readmitted with 9% of those dying.
- author acknowledges the initial counts having accuracy issues (no specific numbers) because testing was limited as a whole and the PCR test having up to 29% false positives.
Fact check: 94% of individuals with additional causes of death still had COVID-19
This is an old article (sep 20) but does help explain where some of the mistrust comes from on the actual determining factor of death. Not disputing their false claim on 6% as COVID deaths, the number is clearly higher than that, so I agree with the intent of the article disputing that statements being shared as “false”.
The authors do mention the various subjectivity in determining the cause though. While they agree only 6% (at that time) had ONLY COVID listed as death cause, it covers the various other conditions that can play various amounts of impact with COVID on top of it.
I only think they bean counters should take a look at the average heart disease, diabetes, whatever else deaths, and at least put the numbers together that of those 800K, the likelihood is that Xx amount would have likely died (per averages) without COVID too. I see that as a little disingenuous to count them as COVID deaths.
We Could Be Vastly Overestimating the Death Rate for COVID-19 — Here's Why - Our World
Another old article but important regarding how the initial outbreak was being calculated which I believe strongly played into overreactions.
Bottom line, we know asymptomatic people weren’t necessarily tested, so never counted including people who may have called to say they had symptoms but followed dr discretion and just stayed home until better (example in article). Because these were not factored in, the mortality rate was likely pushed as much higher than actual.
Fact check: Changes to the counting of COVID-19 deaths in August reduced England’s death toll
Another article regarding how numbers were reported. England admitted that people died and were marked as a COVID death almost indefinitely after the positive test. This process was changed in Aug 21. Not a dishonest effort (I think) but protocol changed, still following the idea of a positive test w/in 28 days being marked a COVID death. While I say that still leads to additional inaccurate numbers, it more accurate than before, so dr/nurses were not lying, but numbers may have been inflated.
N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count (Published 2020)
While this doesn’t explain why they added 3700 deaths, it’s a completely subjective addition inconsistent with all locations and the reporting protocols. I’m no dr, I’m sure they can make a legit guess that someone may have died from COVID, but without a positive test, it legit isnt proved and people are making decisions that affect everyone off these numbers.
We are in the Yucatan so basically we are neighbors. Been here almost 6 yrs.
Is everything that's against what YOU believe a right wing group lol wtf. FYI I'm not for either party D or R because it's really a Uni-party. I'm for the constitution and bill of rights fuck the government.
Nice! Howdy neighbor!
It’s pretty country
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