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Vigsted said:
And where exactly do you see something that anyone else wouldn't have done or that Pacman incited the shooting?
The statement was made he had nothing to do with the incident when he had EVERYTHING to do with the incident. If he hadn't been there, no incident.
 
Where are PacMans buddies in this? I have been way drunk and if I even started to do anything like that I would have a buddy in my face telling me to chill. It may take a few "requests" but your friends can typically calm you down to the point you will not get arrested.
 
Turning yourself over to police doesnt admit guilt. And if Fisher is going to have a no tolerance policy then Pacman shouldnt play Sat.

That is why I said my theory got a little fuzzy.;) And that is why I also included the fact that he turned himself in 90 minutes before kick off. He was in no frame of mind to play that game.
 
BlazingArrow#9 said:
Where are PacMans buddies in this? I have been way drunk and if I even started to do anything like that I would have a buddy in my face telling me to chill. It may take a few "requests" but your friends can typically calm you down to the point you will not get arrested.

this may come as a shock but not everyone works that way
 
Titanium said:
Exactly!

It really sounds like Pac could have left the bar when asked to and we all wouldn't be talking about this situation this morning. But nooooo .. Pac had to continue on with his mouth repeatedly. I'm sure the alcohol content had a lot to do with Pac not acting rational, but again it comes down to choices and the young man just can't seem to make the right one's when it comes down to situations like this.

I bet Fisher could spit nails this morning

Couldn't agree more, going into camp I had written threads about his "Learning curve" being a rookie and the strides haynesworth made from yr 1 to 2 actually believeing Pac had gotten through the Bull&^%$ that he is consistantly in, then when he had the party in ATL,I just figured well if he ****s up then he outgha watch the games from the bench...and I was surprised when nothing went down In ATL and I figured , well he's finally learning... I guess not..I don't buy it's because he's a Titan, or a black man or anything else... I think he got arrested because he's a punk, he oughta be riding pine, with a heafty chunk of change coming out of the next couple checks.......
 
Well I would not really consider a person a friend if they can not help you out at your lowest. Especially knowing this guys temper. What if he slugged the cop because they said the "wrong" thing. Something like that could ruin his career.

Oh and if it were Chuck he would not have been arrested unless he chose to be.
 
Childress79 said:
He's no saint but one thing he has done is won his team mates over in the off season. His issues are not the same as they were last year in the clubhouse. He screwed up but overall he's made a huge personal improvement.

Sometimes a helping hand can do more good than a crack upside the head.


Whom ever he won over he might have lost them again. He certainly hasn't won over many fans. He has been involved in 3 separate issues in the past few months. No he hasn't made a huge personal improvement. He is still a jerk

BTW Jones is going to be tested eveytime he goes anywhere by someone. He had better get use to that. If he doesn't it may well be the end of him.
He will have to learn to step back and walk away. Unfortunately I don't see that happening
 
For all we know they got in his face and told him to shut up...doesn't mean he actually will.

but that is neither here nor there.
 
Ewker said:
Whom ever he won over he might have lost them again. He certainly hasn't won over many fans. He has been involved in 3 separate issues in the past few months. No he hasn't made a huge personal improvement. He is still a jerk

what 3 issues?
 
if someone had of mentioned Pacmans name in the O.J murder would you count that?

the car and parking lot have had nothing to do with him.

sheesh :rolleyes:
 
He's won me over.

You don't see any improvement? Like I said he's no saint but look at his offseason work ethic. Even Fisher said he's really put the work in. Fisher told him to move to a quieter neighbourhood & he did.

He's cocky & he's immature but he is trying. Looks like he has to learn everything the hard way but he wants to fit in & he wants to help the team.

He could have took his 1st year bonus $ & shown us all the finger. I'd rather root for him to succeed than knock him down
 
it ddoesnt matter guys come on, hes an NFL player, yakno hell get off, and that coach Fisher will sit down and talk to him, just hope this isnt turning out to be the bengals all over again
 
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TitanJeff said:
The statement was made he had nothing to do with the incident when he had EVERYTHING to do with the incident. If he hadn't been there, no incident.

That's like saying if there are no banks there would be no bank robberies :rolleyes:

Besides, the police come out and cleared him of any involvement in the matter, why won't you? Fact is Pacman was an innocent bystander in that respect.

And the same goes for the car drug ring, unfortunately it dissapeared from the news quickly so I'm not even sure what the outcome was, but the last I heard was that Pacman had no direct involvment and he certainly wasn't charged with anything. Even if he did own one of the cars involved that doesn't make him guily in any way, considering it was in the possession of someone else.
 
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