Titans should have found a way to sign him much earlier and not let it get to this point. That was a major JR weakness.
Titans would be crazy to pay more than that. He is not worth it.
If teams got together to do that it would be collusion. They need the ability to designate 1 superstar that doesn’t count against the cap. But, the insanity of overpaying is only going to get worse. It accelerated under Bill Polian in the Panther’s inaugural year. He spent crazy money per player without a thought to the long term ramifications.Teams are going to have to come together and stop one upping the last big contract at some point.
QB is at 40-50m/yr, WR 25-30m, LT 20ish, EDGE 20-25m. DL 20-25 several other positions in the 20m range... Getting to the point that you can only fill 3-4 positions with top talent once they get past a rookie contract.
Never understood why teams wait for other teams to set the market of a position knowing they need to get their guy under contract as cheap as they can while making sure he gets what he's worth in their mind.Titans should have found a way to sign him much earlier and not let it get to this point. That was a major JR weakness.
I guess players don’t realize that they’re shortening their own careers.Teams are going to have to come together and stop one upping the last big contract at some point.
QB is at 40-50m/yr, WR 25-30m, LT 20ish, EDGE 20-25m. DL 20-25 several other positions in the 20m range... Getting to the point that you can only fill 3-4 positions with top talent once they get past a rookie contract.
with these price tags, they’re all done by 30.
He doesn’t have nearly the impact a top WR has and that’s the difference. The defense didn’t miss a beat when he was out last year. A great player for sure, but doesn’t have a big enough impact in Vrabel’s defense to take up such a large percentage of the cap.He's about as good of a player as AJ who got 25M.
The Titans just traded a great WR so they could draft a worse one. If they do it again with the best player on defense Ran can gtfo too.
Teams are going to have to come together and stop one upping the last big contract at some point.
QB is at 40-50m/yr, WR 25-30m, LT 20ish, EDGE 20-25m. DL 20-25 several other positions in the 20m range... Getting to the point that you can only fill 3-4 positions with top talent once they get past a rookie contract.
They will eventually when it starts hitting the Owners pockets and no returns AKA no Superbowl wins.
Giving Payne all that money and he's not even close to bringing you a SB run.
I think the goal with players these days is to make as much money as possible while doing as little as possible. Like society in general now. Probably why the injury lists are always so big now while the game is certainly much less violent.I guess players don’t realize that they’re shortening their own careers.
with these price tags, they’re all done by 30.
Titans should have found a way to sign him much earlier and not let it get to this point. That was a major JR weakness.
Totally agree, but then he'll sulk and threaten to hold out for a new contract when he sees his peers getting "the bag".
He's about as good of a player as AJ who got 25M.
The Titans just traded a great WR so they could draft a worse one. If they do it again with the best player on defense Ran can gtfo too.
Literally inaccurate. Great receiver for a worse one? Not likely but you can’t say won’t be great for much much less Burks doesn’t call plays. Doesnt play OL or QB. If you had paid AJ, then Simmons would already be released or traded. You just can’t pay everyone $25 million per season. AJ wouldn’t have changed much last season or this.
But, we got Burks ( Who will be very good)
McCreary
Petit-Frere
Not a horrible trade considering….
JRob screwed up. But the trade wasn’t horrible. I think he could have gotten more. AJ needed to go.
Totally agree, but then he'll sulk and threaten to hold out for a new contract when he sees his peers getting "the bag".
The key word is "threaten" to hold out because the new CBA sets such big fines that the team can not forgive that players will not hold out or if they do it won't be for long and certainly won't be for regular season games....
The nice thing in negotiations with Simmons is that the high end was already set by Donald at 95mil.
I'm over players who "will be great". I want to keep the players that ARE great. This mentality that you can dump stars for lottery tickets and replace them for cheaper makes you lose.Literally inaccurate. Great receiver for a worse one? Not likely but you can’t say won’t be great for much much less Burks doesn’t call plays. Doesnt play OL or QB. If you had paid AJ, then Simmons would already be released or traded. You just can’t pay everyone $25 million per season. AJ wouldn’t have changed much last season or this.
But, we got Burks ( Who will be very good)
McCreary
Petit-Frere
Not a horrible trade considering….
JRob screwed up. But the trade wasn’t horrible. I think he could have gotten more. AJ needed to go.
If the Titans deal Simmons too I'm going to seriously question their commitment to winning.
This is kinda a crazy over pay imo, especially the fact he's really only had 1 good year. This kinds ****s us because simmons should get more than this and thats a ton of money
Cool, sign him for less.
not missing a game over 5 years is good
Simmons missed like 10 games to start his career... might have been more
Simmons missed like 10 games to start his career... might have been more
What do you do when these stars demand too much? Which is what AJ did.I'm over players who "will be great". I want to keep the players that ARE great. This mentality that you can dump stars for lottery tickets and replace them for cheaper makes you lose.
If the Titans deal Simmons too I'm going to seriously question their commitment to winning.
So what do you do?
So you're saying Simmons has been a good bit better on a per game basis?
We're projected to have over 125M in cap space for the 2024 season, since we've whiffed on most draft picks from 2020 and 2021. We can afford him. If they trade him they'll almost certainly get a worse replacement again. That's not winning football.What do you do when these stars demand too much? Which is what AJ did.
So what do you do?
If we dont resign Simmons I will be as upset with this franchise as I have ever been. With the long list of stupid things this franchise has done since I have been a fan, this will top the list.
For a 7th rounder. Titans should have been all over that. Honestly think you can get a TE on his level that late in the draft?
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