I think they are boxed in because they agreed to it prior to the season.
Dudes in the bottom half of the first round haven't done much the last few years. Montez Sweat and TJ Watt look like home runs. Chaisson, LJ Collier, Charles Harris, Tak McKinley, Taco Charlton, Shaq Lawson, Emmanual Ogbah didn't do much of anything.
Is there a player we should trade up to get? This draft is supposed to be fairly deep in Edge talent.
Outside of Paye, who doesn't really look to be a 3/4 OLB anyway, most mocks have us with our choice of edge guys.
None of these guys are sure fire producers at the next level. This could end up being like the 2015 draft where the first round edge rushers never did much in the pros (Fowler, Beasley, Ray).
I’d much rather commit to a double digit sack guy in Free Agency too.
I’d much rather commit to a double digit sack guy in Free Agency too.
At the beginning of the year, everyone had Rousseau as a top 5 pick. But since he only played as a redshirt freshman, his stock appears to have dropped. If he is there for us, I don't think we can not take him.
Still could be a miss. And I doubt even if we hit one rookie 1st round pick solves our pass rush issues.
No, and if there was we wouldn’t have the draft or trade capital to move to get him.
Honestly, JROB has already proven that he and/or the scouting department(s) cannot land great pass rushers via the draft....
There's been 2 DL, DE, EDGES he's landed, and both of them had ties to repetitive/major injuries causing draft stock demand to go down... Harold Landry & Jeffery Simmons
.... He might be better off BUYING pass rushers so he can avoid playing guessing games.
I'd be fine with signing a Free Agent, cutting Vaccaro (saves 5 million post June 1) and drafting our SS for years to come in the first round -- that way if you take an EDGE in the 2nd round and he doesn't produce right away, law of average says your Free Agent piece should help with some of the load...... but that last part we saw last year too, only problem there was NO EDGE taken in the draft..
There's been 2 DL, DE, EDGES he's landed, and both of them had ties to repetitive/major injuries causing draft stock demand to go down... Harold Landry & Jeffery Simmons
.... He might be better off BUYING pass rushers so he can avoid playing guessing games.
I'd be fine with signing a Free Agent, cutting Vaccaro (saves 5 million post June 1) and drafting our SS for years to come in the first round -- that way if you take an EDGE in the 2nd round and he doesn't produce right away, law of average says your Free Agent piece should help with some of the load...... but that last part we saw last year too, only problem there was NO EDGE taken in the draft..
You know I said the same thing hours before the draft started last year.... and we know how that went...
It went all the way to the fridge for more beer.
With our draft spot and as you said depth at edge and lack of it at dl I have expected dl in the first for awhile now.
Edit: I thought we would and wanted us to go dl first round last year as well.
Yeah cause Adoree been killing it.
But what value you getting when starters playing like scrubs?
This guy gets it.
Y’all keep talking about not getting rid of defensive pieces to get new defensive pieces but last years defensive pieces SUCKED.
Butler was decent but how much longer will that last at his age?
If you ask me who would you prefer starting, Roberson and Butler or JJ Watt and Borders, I will take pass rush every time.
Watt was decent but how much longer will that last at his age?
Reggie White played well till he was 37. Who knows...
I wouldn't mind Watt, but I don't want to give up anything for a CHANCE at him.
1) I'm not sure he'd come here unless it was his only choice.
2) He's had 1 good season in the last 5 years.
Totally different cases. White never had a decline in his late twenties to early thirties and didn’t have the injury issues. This example is more like comparing Andrew Luck to Tom Brady. If Watt can be productive and come at a reasonable figure based on his last several years, then by all means bring him on. The best option is a blend f veteran FA and young gun draft pick. BUT... JR has shown me nothing in his ability to get the right FA over the last two years ( speaking of edge help here).
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