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Agree completely. If the argument is "is he a HoF?"
In my case (the reason for the stats) is to prove he was better than CJ2K.

I don't think EG is a HoF (at 1 time I did but 10K isn't what it used to be but will be again very shortly). At least he has some other competition from his era that are probably more deserving and should get in first.

For me CJ vs EG is a no brainer, it's EG.

EG was the leader who put the team first, CJ was the player who got paid and the effort went downhill.
 
A couple arguments could be made for a better top 4 than Ten but they are definitely among the top:

Ind, Sea, Phi, KC

Many of those players go back a long way and it gets difficult to compare eras. I built that list strictly off their production statistics while on that specific team.

a couple QB's would make the list, partly due to short history.

Eric Dickerson, Marshall Faulk make 2 teams. Marcus Allen, Warrick Dunn, and Priest Holmes are debatably the #5 guy for a second team.
I'd put the rams in that group too, but still think the titans have the best 4.
 
For me CJ vs EG is a no brainer, it's EG.

EG was the leader who put the team first, CJ was the player who got paid and the effort went downhill.


To be fair the life expectancy of an NFL RB is about 5 years of prime. CJ had 1 crazy historical season and then the rest of his time with the Titans was pretty much the same type year. I don’t think in my opinion that he quit after he got paid, the Titans were just pretty bad. We had no offensive direction except waiting on him to break one. We had a QB carousel and a head coach who wasn’t very good at being a head coach. Munchak was bad. We came to expect 2000 yards from CJ when in reality he was a 1000 - 1200 yard per year kinda back. He just had that freakish historic year. He shouldn’t have ever been an every down back. Man would he would be good as a complimentary back to Henry right now. Maybe Evans can be that.

I take Steady Eddie over CJ.
 
I'd put the rams in that group too, but still think the titans have the best 4.


Marcus Allen is one of the most overrated football players in the history of the NFL. Talk about Eddie George not belonging in the HOF but the Hall of very Good. Marcus Allen belongs in the Hall of I played a long time in the NFL and had 1 great season. 16 seasons and broke 1000 yards only 3 times. His average season season was 775 yards per. In a time when they ran more,

If Marcus is in, Eddie for sure should be in.
 
Marcus Allen is one of the most overrated football players in the history of the NFL. Talk about Eddie George not belonging in the HOF but the Hall of very Good. Marcus Allen belongs in the Hall of I played a long time in the NFL and had 1 great season. 16 seasons and broke 1000 yards only 3 times. His average season season was 775 yards per. In a time when they ran more,

If Marcus is in, Eddie for sure should be in.

Allen got in off the success of his first four seasons. During that timeframe he won a superbowl (where he was the MVP) and had a 1700 yard rushing season where he won OPOY and NFL MVP.

After those first four seasons....crickets....except for his feud with Al Davis
 
Eddie may have never won a SB but he was the leader of this team during his time as a Titan/Oiler.
In the SB vs the Rams he showed alot of heart and how this team needed him along with Mac9.

He deserves to be in the HOF, imo its more than just stats and rings.

Good point about Marcus Allen @TitanMark
 
Eddie may have never won a SB but he was the leader of this team during his time as a Titan/Oiler.
In the SB vs the Rams he showed alot of heart and how this team needed him along with Mac9.

He deserves to be in the HOF, imo its more than just stats and rings.

Good point about Marcus Allen @TitanMark

Thank you... I’m right every blue moon or so.
 
At least you admit it


Sure I am ... I’m not scared to have an opinion and then be wrong and then admit it, It’s how you learn and I can assure you that none of us in this forum know it all. Some of us are older and wiser and our opinions even if wrong come with more depth. But none of us has all the answers.
 
Marcus Allen is one of the most overrated football players in the history of the NFL. Talk about Eddie George not belonging in the HOF but the Hall of very Good. Marcus Allen belongs in the Hall of I played a long time in the NFL and had 1 great season. 16 seasons and broke 1000 yards only 3 times. His average season season was 775 yards per. In a time when they ran more,

If Marcus is in, Eddie for sure should be in.
TD's matter and so do SB rings. That's my exact knock on EG is that he didn't get enough TD and that he had no SB rings. Allen is more than 2:1 TD over EG. 144 total to 72?.

You also point out running the ball more but Allen still reached 10K (albeit over a long career) but not always as the featured back so his team split carries a lot. Bo Jackson in Oakland, Christian Okoye, Barry Word in KC.

Longevity is kind of my argument that Frank Gore isn't a shoe in although he's #3 all time.
 
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TD's matter and so do SB rings. That's my exact knock on EG is that he didn't get enough TD and that he had no SB rings. Allen is more than 2:1 TD over EG. 144 total to 72?.

You also point out running the ball more but Allen still reached 10K (albeit over a long career) but not always as the featured back so his team split carries a lot. Bo Jackson in Oakland, Christian Okoye, Barry Word in KC.

Longevity is kind of my argument that Frank Gore isn't a shoe in although he's #3 all time.


My argument against any HOFer is were they one of the best at their position while they played at their peak. Allen was not even top 10.

Super Bowls shouldn’t matter, it’s a team game. He played on great teams.

That he wasn’t the featured back speaks volumes to my point.

What about Fred Taylor Steven Jackson or Corey Dillon?
 
My argument against any HOFer is were they one of the best at their position while they played at their peak. Allen was not even top 10.

Super Bowls shouldn’t matter, it’s a team game. He played on great teams.

That he wasn’t the featured back speaks volumes to my point.

What about Fred Taylor Steven Jackson or Corey Dillon?
I agree with your choices that they should be in, at least before EG.

Unfortunately, SB do matter. Guys like Stabler or even Namath have no business in the HoF but they won.

Allen being a split back (3 years in the middle of his career injured) doesn't necessarily speak poorly on his behalf due to teams working a duel RB situation, specifically for the purpose of keeping them long term healthy.
As I said, clearly a GL specialist. 144 total TD. 123 rushing. That says a lot and more than just about every other RB in the history of the game.
 
statistically can’t disagree. But CJ2K had numerous tackles behind the LOS for -2 yds. He’d break one or two 40+ Yd per game.

id take Eddie over CJ2K (x one time) overall. Eddie brought swagger and toughness and with McNair, Wychek, Matthew’s, Mason on O and Bishop, Kearse, Rolle, later bulluck, Carter that was a damn good team. I have to admit Fisher chit the bed with his gameplanning with that talent.
I agree with you.
Too many cj stops behind the Los
When we needed to eat clock, cj either sputtered or, once in a while, broke a long run, often a td.
That fact added to the detriment of an often exhausted defense with little rest stepping out on the field and getting burned, negating the good run.
That year, it was all for cj breaking 2k.
If I needed to get top, as most run oriented teams do, Eddie was better at getting that two or three yards and extending plays.

Henry is nearly as good if not better in short yardage situations. He is better than Eddie at long runs, by far. I think Eddie only had one 200 yard game.
It would have been nice to have them both on our team in their prime.
Anyway, Eddie don't get in. Being a team player and helping to extend drives will never get hof over a stat guy.
 
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Derrick Henry will not win MVP.

Ryan Tannehill is not elite.

Worry more about winning games than these stupid ass labels and statistics.
 
I'd say theres a 50% chance Derrick Henry wins MVP.

teams have dared Ryan tannehill to beat them and now everyone knows he can. When tannehill posted his 16th game as a starter for the titans I saw infographics comparing his 16 games to aarong Rodgers MVP season and tannehill had better stats. They also compared him to mahomes stats and they were equal... tannehill is a goat and everyone in the league knows it now.

This has lead to defenses forced to not bite on play action and has forced them to delay their pursuit of Henry by a bit... I noticed this a couple games ago where Henry is just getting thru the line of scrimmage very easily, which results in him falling forward for 6 yards nearly every play.

Combine that with the fact that Derrick henry was great in December last year, I believe he could average 150 yards for these last 5 games and hit the 2000 yard mark.

If he doesn't do this, it is still highly likely that he becomes the league leading rusher for the 2nd time in a row. This puts him in historically elite company of Jim brown, Eric Dickerson, emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders and edgerrin James.

Given his resume from last year where he carried the entire team into the AFC championship, and his resume this year which could be similar, it is a no brainer that Derrick Henry is the most valuable player.

Yes I understand the politics of the award and there is a chance that the league will give it go mahomes because they need to create a new Brady figure but having Derrick Henry on your team is lightyears better than having the 2nd best rb on your team whereas you could put 5 different QBs on the chiefs and they are a superbowl contender anyway
 
While the stats don’t show it, Henry actually still played well, constantly got us in 3rd and short situations and falling forward for an extra 2 yards every time he got hit, but Tannehill and the pass protection stunk it up. I don’t even need to say anything about the defense.
 
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