Pointed out in another post, but amnesty because he wasn't being investigated or part of the investigation.
More info continues to come out, and it seems he may very well be part of the investigation, which would change my comment.
This is true if the company you work for has a policy stating it's against the rules of that business.
I'm sure the NFL DID have rules against this 10 years ago, what kind of monitoring of their own email content do they do? They only have more money than just about any other business in existence and I can assure you with 100% certainty, the Navy does a 1000x better monitoring. An email with these key words would have been found in hours, not 10+ years.
So is the NFL as a whole to blame for not catching this sooner? I mean, they kind of allowed the "culture" to continue from his comments for 10 years.
ANd since winning the SB twenty years ago, Gruden's record is almost 20 games under .500 without a single playoff win, so maybe we can just go with he is out of the league because he is a terrible coach then.
It's arguable at least, that his performance in Oakland/LV (2nd go around) has been bad enough to justify this move.
ok. Dumb timing if that's the case. Raiders are 3-2 and very much in a playoff race to fire after 5 games, but I concur with the picture overall, he hasn't been good since leaving the booth.
Anybody have a reference that the emails were actually sent from ESPN's server? all I see is that he was employed as a ESPN MNF analyst at the time. Uh oh- wait a minute- I called Gruden an ANAL-YST. Oh sh!t- somebody might dig this up 10 years later and call me a homo-phobe misogynist.
Uhhhm. Please accept my most sincere apology. I never intended to offend anyone. I am deeply aware of how mistreated segments of our population have been mistreated and will revoke my statement(s) in whatever context they have portrayed.......
Uhhhm. Please accept my most sincere apology. I never intended to offend anyone. I am deeply aware of how mistreated segments of our population have been mistreated and will revoke my statement(s) in whatever context they have portrayed.......
I never understood why they gave the guy $100M for 10 years. Crazy. FTR, I couldn't stand his QB room interviews either- I thought they hokey and staged.
agree on the QB interviews.
I honestly thought he was a better coach than reputation left him after winning his SB (i.e. Dungy's team, not his, despite playing against his team).
The Mack trade looked like it was going to be a good build up, until the draft. Then it just hasn't happened and he's looking worse every year to me.
isnt Gruden a cancellor though (or at least wanted to be)? The emails show he didnt think Eric Reid should be in the league due to protesting. So, cant really complain about being cancelled when he was wanting people canceled first.
That just gave me a great idea to get around the salary cap. Have the players you want to extend over the cap call themselves artists, splatter paint on some canvas, then have private sells where the buyers cant be identified.
This has nothing to do with legality. He wasn’t fired because he did something illegal. He did something that is seen by most of our society as unacceptable. And it is particularly problematic when you work for a league in which an extremely high percentage of the employees are black. So he lost his job. Him remaining the coach was simply untenable for the franchise specifically and the NFL in general.
And it doesn’t matter if he was the object of the investigation. The email became public and once it did, he was done for obvious reasons.
You don’t see issue with this if he wasn’t part of the investigation at all and someone just happened upon some emails meant for only those in the To/From, from 10 years ago and getting fired (forced to resign) off public opinion of those contents?
Consider all possibilities here, who determines the “ist”? Not a fan of his actions at all and think he’s pretty stupid for using his work email in which he is expected to comply with user agreement. If this wasn’t found by the league’s own IT’s at some point recently after sending, then it just looks as if the NFL was fine with this up until the WFT investigation found it or they don’t enforce their own user agreement. So to me, gruden would be a symptom, not the disease and the NFL’s complicity is the bigger issue. That’s especially true since nothing illegal was done, just unfavorable jokes/ statements/ opinions, whatever you want to call them.
it does matter if he was specifically part of the investigation. That means he was a person of interest in the “culture” problem in Washington and with comments like this, could be considered a contributor to that culture. Just still not sure why it took the NFL 10 years to find their own emails failing to meet user agreements.
So the same public opinion that wants Gruden ousted (which he is) should also be clamoring for further NFL investigations to all 32 teams, league offices, and potentially shut them down for being complicit on the matter.
Don’t pick and choose, boycott the NFL until they make changes to stop hurtful (potentially) emails. Better monitor and record all locker room conversations too, have zero doubt that all kinds of inappropriate conversations that involve all the “ists” take place within the NFL’s place of business. And that’s currently, I can only imagine what was said back in the 60’s.
I’m glad you’re taking a stand to shut down the NFL. Good for you and good luck in your mission.
I hope gruden lawyers up like Scarlett Johansson did to disney
she was, at first, vilified by the woke mob... but she was right. disney broke their contract with her & I am sure the lawyers behind the actors guild made her sue. Sure enough disney caved like libtarded cuntsumps and announced all further releases will be in theatres
Johanssons contract said her black widow movie would receive, and I dont recall the exact wording, but a traditional theater release. disney released movie direct to streaming and crushed Johanssons portion of the contract... then tried to whip up the leftards into a mob because Johansson defended her contract with disney
Will be interesting to see how many millions Johansson gets from contract breaking woke disney
guess we will never know...
Scarlett Johansson and Disney Settle Lawsuit After Legal Battle Over BLACK WIDOW Release
she was, at first, vilified by the woke mob... but she was right. disney broke their contract with her & I am sure the lawyers behind the actors guild made her sue. Sure enough disney caved like libtarded cuntsumps and announced all further releases will be in theatres
Johanssons contract said her black widow movie would receive, and I dont recall the exact wording, but a traditional theater release. disney released movie direct to streaming and crushed Johanssons portion of the contract... then tried to whip up the leftards into a mob because Johansson defended her contract with disney
Will be interesting to see how many millions Johansson gets from contract breaking woke disney
guess we will never know...
Scarlett Johansson and Disney Settle Lawsuit After Legal Battle Over BLACK WIDOW Release
Some of what I suggested but I think it’s a little bit of a stretch to think some negative comments from Gruden about Smith garnered a vote for Smith to stay. Either that, or how the voters decide who to vote for needs to be highly reconsidered,
Although I suppose we’ve reached a point where people vote for people not based on any positive they may do or merit, but because they’ve been picked on.
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