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Still need a RT and possibly C for the OL.

I don’t think a QB is worth what’s needed to trade up and by the time a team is built around him IF he was worth it, he won’t be on a rookie contract anymore.

Disagree. Henry, Burks, and Chig are good weapons. The defense is great when healthy. Just need to rebuild the OL. Luckily, if we are moving on from Tanne, we will have 55+ million in cap room to improve the OL.
 
And yea if I can get a Barry Sanders for a 1st I'd do it. Bdh has 2-3 years tops and that's because he wasn't a starter after year 2
Speculation.

Id say he has all the qualities of Adrian Peterson in toughness but with a higher durability. That would say BDH still can post 7-8 quality seasons.

it breaks the narrative of RB and 30 cliff which is not really based off anything anyway. It’s based off cost of established RB vs the cost of a replacement that may be a small step down but frees tons of cap space.
 
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Just stay put. I don't like trading up in the first round. It just costs way too much draft capital.

There's a ton of QB'S coming out in 2024.

#iwantcalebwilliams

agree. Nothing impressive to me about stroud or young. Trade up to 3 and get will levis- bigger, stronger, more athletic and better arm
 
Sorry but if you can get a rb that gives you 1000 yards receiving and rushing in a season, yea you spend a 1st rd pick. Or spend a top 10 pick on a Corey ****ing davis
How did CMC help the Panthers succeed in the postseason/reach the post season? He didnt. Spending a first round pick on a running back is easily one of the most asinine things a team can do.
 
agree. Nothing impressive to me about stroud or young. Trade up to 3 and get will levis- bigger, stronger, more athletic and better arm

Nothing impressive about Levis IMO.

I like Stroud, just not the QB you would sell the farm for. I'm just not a fan of giving up so much draft capital to move up for.

Do you know how much capital it would take to move up from #11 to #1? Ran better not be that stupid.
 
I suspect the combine tests will drop young and stroud quite a bit

How? I think the combine will actually help Stroud and Young (that'sif they participate). Nobody questions their accuracy. They are super accurate with a pass rush, therefore they will be fine.

Combine only hurts QB'S with questionable accuracy. If they're not accurate at the Combine then chances they won't be accurate in the NFL.

Young and Stroud stock won't be hurt by the Combine at all (if they participate).
 
Or Barkley in NY
How did CMC help the Panthers succeed in the postseason/reach the post season? He didnt. Spending a first round pick on a running back is easily one of the most asinine things a team can do.
Or Peterson in Minnesota. Wait, there are some exceptions.

That said, not sure anyone is that impressive this year and it’s even more difficult to judge seeing the college levels are moving towards a passing league just like the NFL.
 
Or Peterson in Minnesota. Wait, there are some exceptions.

That said, not sure anyone is that impressive this year and it’s even more difficult to judge seeing the college levels are moving towards a passing league just like the NFL.

That's why I hate making RB's expendable.

If we are moving towards a passing league (which has been done for a while now) then we better select a QB now or else we're in trouble.

I'm in the minority in thinking that a team can still win with a great running game and great defense. There's no RB worthy of a first round pick but I damn sure wouldn't be opposed to drafting one in the second round.

I honestly don't see anything wrong with pairing Henry up with an early drafted RB. It was suppose to be Darryton Evans and you see how that would worked out.

That said, there's no RB worthy of a 1st or second round pick this year except Bijan Robinson and even him is a risky pick.
 
agree. Nothing impressive to me about stroud or young. Trade up to 3 and get will levis- bigger, stronger, more athletic and better arm

If you've watched more than 5 minutes of film of all these cats, there is no way you can legitimately come to the conclusion. Bryce Young's only concern is his size. If he were 6'3 220, he'd be considered a similar prospect as Lawrence. However, shorter QBs are finding more and more success in today's game. Brees, Russell Wilson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and Tua are all 6'0 and have found varying degrees of success in the NFL. Young has the arm, accuracy, athletic ability, and QB smarts to be a an elite QB.

I'm not sure what issue you have with Stroud. He's basically everything you want from a QB prospect. Strong, accurate arm. Great athletic ability. Very intelligent. Elite college production.

Honestly, Levis is the 4th QB on my list (if not lower). I'm taking A-Richardson over Levis because he does everything Levis does, only better. He's faster with a stronger arm.
 
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If you've watched more than 5 minutes of film of all these cats, there is no way you can legitimately come to the conclusion. Bryce Young's only concern is his size. If he were 6'3 220, he'd be considered a similar prospect as Lawrence. However, shorter QBs are finding more and more success in today's game. Brees, Russell Wilson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and Tua are all 6'0 and have found varying degrees of success in the NFL. Young has the arm, accuracy, athletic ability, and QB smarts to be a an elite QB.

I'm not sure Stroud what issue you have with Stroud. He's basically everything you want from a QB prospect. Strong, accurate arm. Great athletic ability. Very intelligent. Elite college production.

Honestly, Levis is the 4th QB on my list (if not lower). I'm taking A-Richardson over Levis because he does everything Levis does, only better. He's faster with a stronger arm.
Levis is a lot better than Richardson. Richardson does everything better? That’s one of the worst analyses I’ve ever seen on this forum. I’m not sure Richardson is better than Malik Willis. Levis played behind an o-line this season that would make the Titans’ seem stellar.

 
Levis is a lot better than Richardson. Richardson does everything better? That’s one of the worst analyses I’ve ever seen on this forum. I’m not sure Richardson is better than Malik Willis. Levis played behind an o-line this season that would make the Titans’ seem stellar.


Dude, Levis was trash this year, regardless of OL. Terrible decision making skills. Seems easily rattled in the pocket. Holds on the ball too long resulting in unwarranted sacks. Super inaccurate throwing on the run.

And this isn't just my take. Plenty of people saw the same thing this year. He's being considered so high because the raw talent is evident and he has proto-typical size. But he's for sure going to be terrible year 1 wherever he goes.

Anthony Richardson has the same issues and more (super inaccurate) but has more raw talent. If I'm taking a project QB, I'll take the guy with more raw talent.
 
Hoping it's all smoke and mirrors to drive up price tag for Hou & Indy.

Would require a similar package it took for Trey Lance deal and we saw how that turned out... Ran would be very bold (dare I say foolish) to do that again, especially in the first year of his job.

Build the OL or take the QB you want at 11 if he's there.
 
Or Peterson in Minnesota. Wait, there are some exceptions.

That said, not sure anyone is that impressive this year and it’s even more difficult to judge seeing the college levels are moving towards a passing league just like the NFL.
AP won one playoff game with the Vikings nearly 15 years ago....if that's you're exception. Yikes.
 
I'd love to have Stroud but idk if I'd want to pay the price to go to 1. He's my favorite QB prospect over the next two drafts besides Williams.
 
There's a song for fans who love oline with no qb...

D-cked down in dallas.. lol
I'm not a big fan of Tannehill, especially lately but I think he's our best option. Build the OL, improve the WRs. Downing is gone, hopefully we hire a decent OC and we get back to 2019 form. Tannehill needs to restructure to help out as well
 
Dude, Levis was trash this year, regardless of OL. Terrible decision making skills. Seems easily rattled in the pocket. Holds on the ball too long resulting in unwarranted sacks. Super inaccurate throwing on the run.

And this isn't just my take. Plenty of people saw the same thing this year. He's being considered so high because the raw talent is evident and he has proto-typical size. But he's for sure going to be terrible year 1 wherever he goes.

Anthony Richardson has the same issues and more (super inaccurate) but has more raw talent. If I'm taking a project QB, I'll take the guy with more raw talent.
So trash this past year, but had a 151.9 QB rating with no protection from the o-line and a new OC that’s already been fired? Got it.
 
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