Is there a generational WR that could be there at 11?
We do have Burks and it has been pointed out Woods is a good #2, he was coming off an ACL and all the other sh*t our offense showed us.
When's the last time an elite RB won a Superbowl? Marshawn Lynch? Who was traded for a fourth round pick lmao.
There isn’t a single WR I’d take in the top 11.
Nope. Don't buy into the Quinton Johnson hype when it comes around.
Fournette was a 1st and won with TB.
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But I’ll guess now the goal post is about to shift again. Now it’s going to be about “elite”.
Actually, I think so...Heisman Trophy winner, national champ...overall beast. That said, IMO he would be the exception here. I think that, best case, stud RBs are late 2nd round at best these days...
Lol just ignore that the Jaguars drafted him in the first, then later waived him because he was literally untradable. That actually further proves my point that you can find a good running back for literally no assets. So thanks?
I never argued you can’t find a good RB later.
You stated a RB even like Barry Samders should never be taken in the 1st.
Which is correct. In the current landscape of the NFL there is not a running back in history that's worth a first round pick. The only exception may be if a team is solid everywhere else and it's truly a luxury pick. Even then you're likely better getting depth elsewhere.
Quick reminder of how this started.
100% true
Not worth posting a whole bunch of research to prove why I disagree highly on this one, I’ll just list a few for other people to chime in if they want
Not sure why you mentioned post season success or how long ago they played if that had no relevance to your point, but ok.
Josh Jacobs
Barkley
Sony Michel (2x SB winner)
Fournette (won SB)
CMC (1K rushing and rec same year)
Zeke Elliott
Mark Ingram
Rasherd mendenhal (SB winner)
Jonathan Stewart (SB loser)
CJ2K (2K rusher)
AP (2K rusher)
Marshawn Lynch (SB winner and loser)
Reggie Bush (SB winner)
Deangelo Williams (SB loser)
Joseph Addai (SB winner and loser)
Ronnie Brown
Steven Jackson
Willis mcgahee
Larry Johnson
LT
Deuce McAllister
Jamal Lewis (2K and SB winner)
Thomas Jones
Shaun Alexander (SB loser)
Edge James
Rickey Williams
Fred Taylor
Warrick Dunn
EG (SB loser)
Marshall Faulk (SB winner and loser, 1K rush and Rec same year)
Garrison Hearst
Jerome Bettis (SB winner)
Robert Smith
I’m sure everyone agrees that none of these guys were worth a first in the last 30 years.
Plenty of other solid contributors names not added.
Most of those guys didn't even get second contracts with their original teams lol. I'm not saying you can't get a great RB in the first round. Obviously you can. It just doesn't really matter if you do. Especially when you see guys like Pacheco getting plugged in and look great.
I don’t really get the love for Pacheco. He really seems marginal at best, zero flash, doesn’t look like he has an ability to take over a game in the rare occasion Mahomes were to struggle.
If anything, I say that products of Mahomes are what KC can put out there, any team without Mahomes as QB doesnt get that luxury.
Woods cost too much and there are cheaper replacements by draft or free agency for his production.
Woods
already under contract and I cant think of any particular thing he did bad other than all the FC inside the 20 as a PR.. but probably should not have been returning punts... another issue robinson refused to address
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He is really good and only gets 10 to 12 touches a game. If the Chiefs win the bowl he has to get 15 to 18 touches. They run Mckinnon to much
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