Yes he always did well with the handoffs or screens. Not sure why we didn’t manufacture more touches for him.
Do you mean put it together as a pro bowl caliber player? Because for someone taken at 100 in his class, started off on a run first team, Jonnu has put together a solid career so far. Jared Cook has had several very good seasons as well.
I don’t think anyone would say Jonnu has had a “ solid “ career so far except for a solid payday based off of potential. He has never had more than 448 yards in a season and that was last year, a contract year. That’s not solid. 4.5 years and he only has 1578 yards. I don’t know if it’s his fault or the Titans/Patriots but his career so far with his talent has been disappointing, not solid.
He had 900 yards and 11 TD's his last two seasons in our run heavy offense, while playing TE by committee. For someone drafted with the 100th pick, I'd say he exceeded expectations.
I think you're really underselling Jonnu's importance. Not only as a receiver, but as a blocker as well. Having you're number 1 TE be both a weapon in the passing game and in the pass/run blocking game is huge.
I wouldn't say he is doing nothing in NE. His numbers this year averaged out over 16 games would basically equal last year's production. And he has another very good TE on the opposite side of him that he is has to share targets with. And Hunter Henry appears to be the go to red zone guy.
Was he overpaid? Probably. But NE was desperate for pass catchers and any decent pass catcher with a pulse was getting paid.
And I think you’re really overselling Jonnu’s value. 40 catches for 400 yards is nothing. Hell firkser did that last year too. Our run game hasn’t missed a beat without him either.
When you’re paid like Travis Kelce and Kittle but you don’t even get 500 yards that’s not good. And if you’re paying that much money for a “blocking” TE then LOL.
And what has Firkser done this year now that Jonnu is gone? You do realize that having a good catching TE opposite of you helps create more miss matches don't you? You think teams are really trying to focus in on Geoff frigging Swaim?
Henry is also averaging nearly a full yard less per game than 2020 as well, so saying the running game "hasn't missed a beat" is also not truthful. Tanne averaging less ypa as well less TDs too.
No one is saying he isn't overpaid. But acting like his value to this team is easily replaced is simply an ignorant statement.
A full yard less per game? Lol so he’s on pace for 17 less yards…. What a difference!
What has firkser done? Well he damn sure ain’t being paid $50 million. And despite missing 2 games due to injury he’s still put up similar stats to Jonnu :biglaugh:
Due to more carries. He averaging 4.5 ypc, compared to 5.4 ypc in 2020. That is very significant.
Similar stats to Jonnu? 11/95 is "similar" to 18/176? Jonnu literally almost has double Firkser's production.
Clearly math is not your strong suit.
Well first off you are calculating an entire season last year for Henry and only a partial season this year. Go ahead and compare stats first 7 weeks last year and first 7 weeks this year before all of those monster games vs Jags and Houston to end the year…
Can you not read? Firkser has missed 2 games. Since you want to talk about math….
Jonnu Smith is averaging 2.5 catches for 25 yards per game.
Firkser is averaging 2.2 catches for 19 yards per game.
Class dismissed.
Derrick Henry first 7 games last year:
161 carries for 775 yards 4.8 YPC
First 7 games this year::
191 carries for 869 yards 4.5 YPC
161 carries for 775 yards 4.8 YPC
First 7 games this year::
191 carries for 869 yards 4.5 YPC
opcorn:Trumpcakes pissing on a Russian prostitute in here? Just checking. :slap:LOL, So you want to use season stats for one player but then partial season average stats for the other.
LMAO. You're cherry picking is too much. If you want to go that route, Jonnu left early this past week due to injury too. Either way, he still leads Firkser in literally every category by decent margin. And again, I never said he was worthy of the contract. But you're either blind or dumb if you think our offense wasn't better with him in it.
What? Lol you don’t want me to use per game stats for Henry’s first 7 weeks last year because it will destroy your argument even more. But sure let’s play that game
Henry first 7 games last year:
110.7 yards per game 4.8 YPC
Henry this year:
124.1 yards per game 4.5 YPC
Doesn’t matter how you slice it, that’s how math works! LMAO
Smith has not come close to earning his pay check in NE. Not sure if that is all his fault but comparing him to Firkser who completely missed 2 games (Jannu yet to miss any) is silly and how about Pruitt with 8 catches in 5 games? Not saying Jannu wasn't a loss to the team but not even close to being worth what he is getting paid. The Titans were absolutely correct in letting him walk.
Best case scenario might be a guy as good as Firkser at catching and running routes but who can also block better than any TE on our roster. Jannu really wasn't great at either part of the game to be honest. Great after the catch maybe.
Best case scenario might be a guy as good as Firkser at catching and running routes but who can also block better than any TE on our roster. Jannu really wasn't great at either part of the game to be honest. Great after the catch maybe.
So less YPC than last year through the same amount of time? He's on pace for 463 carries, which is insane, but whatever. Assuming the carries /game stay stay close to what they are now, he'll need to average 144 ypg the rest of the way just to get close to the 5.0 ypc that he has averaged the last 3 seasons. Even last year, which was by far his best season to date, he only averaged 139 ypg the final 9 games.
He always heats up toward the end of the year. You new here?
And at his current rate, it would take him rushing for more yards in a 9 game span than he ever has before, just to reach the season ypc average of his last 3 seasons combined.
By any measure, our offense is down from last year.
But that doesn’t mean he can’t do it lol. With all of the injuries we’ve had on offense I’m not willing to count that out yet. Keep doubting!
Are we arguing over historical rushing seasons now? Lawd have mercy on my soul. Thought it was more about good to average TE…. Did not someone post Henry had more yards after contact than any other RB had yds a week or two ago? Shut it down fellas! We’re 5/2 and just reamed 2 enemies we’ll likely see in the future. Y’all giving me a Me Too headache!
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