It's a good point. And Pederson may very well get another HC job. But if he doesnt, I think he should be our first choice at OCI wouldn't hate it, but I don't know if Vrabel would bring in a potential HC candidate with successful HC experience, especially one who won a SB. Might be too proud. Plus I doubt Pederson is ready to take a step down.
Fangio and Patricia would be different since we wouldn't classify those stints as successful.
Tough call. I imagine creepers keep this stuff close to the chest. I can't hold someone that even may have been good friends accountable for that. Believe me when I say that typically when it comes out, it is very surprising. Won't say "good friend" but definitely a friend that got arrested for soliciting an underage girl/cop in disguise. Very surprised when it happened and he made the local paper.No saying there's other pedos up at Seahawk HQ. It's optics, would you hang out with a guy who just had his close friend get popped for kiddie pron?
The guy clearly did a great job this year.Kieth Carter as the OL coach is an interesting name. Doing what he did with all the injuries was phenomenal. And grooming Nate Davis (who got several All Pro votes) into a legit starter in one year was also impressive. Could maybe see him moving up somehow.
But, OL coach strikes me as a fairly technical, specific type role, not one that translates that well into OC/running a scheme? I might be wrong, but just seems its more 'block dudes so that other dudes can do their thing' than the creative side of opening up holes, mismatches etc.
I might be doing OL coaches a complete disservice with the above take.
It translates a lot better than you think, a lot of them work with offensive coordinator's so they can learn the nuisances of an offense from who the block in the run game, who to block in the pass game, whose the back going to pick up on a blitz, play action protection etc.The guy clearly did a great job this year.
But, OL coach strikes me as a fairly technical, specific type role, not one that translates that well into OC/running a scheme? I might be wrong, but just seems its more 'block dudes so that other dudes can do their thing' than the creative side of opening up holes, mismatches etc.
I might be doing OL coaches a complete disservice with the above take.
Carter would be dead last on my list. We are too close for OJT at OC. We need an experienced play caller who can match wits with experienced DCs in the playoffs.
Bring him in
Say bye to King Henry if that’s who you want
Steeler fans hated this OC
Yea rightSay bye to King Henry if that’s who you want
Steeler fans hated this OC
Henry isnt just some guy with legs, he makes you want to call his number
A lot of Steeler fans hate Tomlin.Say bye to King Henry if that’s who you want
Steeler fans hated this OC
I hate him too.A lot of Steeler fans hate Tomlin.
A lot of Steeler fans hate Tomlin.
You can say that with any fan base, people have called for vrabel to be fired on this site
We must know different Steelers fans because the majority of the ones I know don’t have a issue with Tomlin
Wasn't Any Reid an OL coach? I'm sure there were others, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. DL coaches can make good DCs too.The guy clearly did a great job this year.
But, OL coach strikes me as a fairly technical, specific type role, not one that translates that well into OC/running a scheme? I might be wrong, but just seems its more 'block dudes so that other dudes can do their thing' than the creative side of opening up holes, mismatches etc.
I might be doing OL coaches a complete disservice with the above take.
I've disliked Carter because I felt as if our OL underperformed for his entire tenure. I guess we have to give him credit for stepping up this year but how much of that is Carter vs Art? Maybe Art helped hide a weakness. Or Maybe Carter does deserve the credit. Either way, if Vrabel feels Carter earned it and is an asset to the offense, I think the next step is to semi-promote him to OL/ Running Game Coordinator.
The guy clearly did a great job this year.
But, OL coach strikes me as a fairly technical, specific type role, not one that translates that well into OC/running a scheme? I might be wrong, but just seems its more 'block dudes so that other dudes can do their thing' than the creative side of opening up holes, mismatches etc.
I might be doing OL coaches a complete disservice with the above take.
Lol you are. Andy Reid was an OL coach.
I'm from western PA (don't live there anymore) and happen to know a lot of Steeler fans. I'd say maybe 3-4/5 are not fans of Tomlin. Many of them are older too, so they are very much fans of Cowher and Noll.You can say that with any fan base, people have called for vrabel to be fired on this site
We must know different Steelers fans because the majority of the ones I know don’t have a issue with Tomlin
My real beef with Tomlin is that I think he's dirty (so are 31 other teams) but he himself will get dirty (not the KO TD he came on to the field for).
I think the calls for Vrabel's head are also pretty limited and certainly based on the specific game results.
I'm from western PA (don't live there anymore) and happen to know a lot of Steeler fans. I'd say maybe 3-4/5 are not fans of Tomlin. Many of them are older too, so they are very much fans of Cowher and Noll.
My real beef with Tomlin is that I think he's dirty (so are 31 other teams) but he himself will get dirty (not the KO TD he came on to the field for).
I think the calls for Vrabel's head are also pretty limited and certainly based on the specific game results.
I grew up in north east Ohio, like a little over an hour outside of Pittsburgh, and my family on both sides are from Pittsburgh.
I’d say the majority love Tomlin
He's not retired. He's OC for the Vikings.Can Vrabel talk coach Kubiak out of retirement?
He's not retired. He's OC for the Vikings.
Vikings' Gary Kubiak retires after just one season as offensive coordinator, per report
Or go after his son?
From the article...
One potential promotion for 2021 could be Kubiak's son, Klint, who has spent the last two seasons as the team's QBs coach.
A lot of Steelers fans hate themselvesA lot of Steeler fans hate Tomlin.
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