You also have to say to yourself what Mahomes would be without Kelce.
Lol c'mon now he wouldn't be that bad.
Not arguing Bowers specifically but add Kellen Winslow to that short list, and 3/5 TE taken top 10 fell well short of expectations.
That’s a low success rate for a top 10 position.
Kansas City fans making fake news that the Sneed trade fell through lol
They are absolutely fuming in the return they got for Sneed lol.
You callin the Rifle bad!!? :chuck: :disbelief:
Or what would Kelce be without Mahomes?
There has been 1 TE in the last 35 years drafted in the top 10 that has actually lived up to the hype. That was Tony Gonzalez.
This isn't comparable to QBs at all.
I think they are reposting the initial report that did state the trade fell through because of contract dispute with Sneed.
The next day, must’ve been figured out, cause the trade went through.
Hockenson is a beast. Pitts had Ridder throwing to him so who knows, but he was still real good. Those are the only Top 10 tight ends in the league. Bowers has way more hype than either of those guys did, largely because we was so much more dominant. Bowers had as many yards and TD’s in college as Hockenson and Pitts did COMBINED. He’s special and you can line him up anywhere.
Which is exactly why Brock Bowers Top 10, isn't happening.
Hockenson is good. I wouldn't call him a beast, but he is good. I would not exactly be thrilled with spending the No 7 overall pick on a TJ Hockenson clone.
Much like RB, good tight ends can be pretty easily found throughout the draft. If I am drafting a TE top 10, he had better be a Kelce or a Kittle or a Witten or a Gronk type of TE. A true game changer. Otherwise, it's a wasted pick, because the difference between a guy like Hockenson and guys like Trey McBride, Dallas Goedert or Cole Kmet isn't that substantial.
Speaking of McBride, he was a guy a couple years ago that I was very high on. He had virtually the exact same physical traits as Bowers. He didn't have the career production that Bowers ended up with in college, but physically he was very similar. He went 55 overall and has turned into a very good, though not elite TE.
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I would think it would be a trade of 1sts plus at least a third
Yes I know. The point is that even a gaining an extra 2 and a 3 should not be enough to fall back that far if Minny is trying to move up to get their franchise QB.
Mocks lately have cooled on Bowers to Chargers, probably because they lost Williams and traded Allen. Bowers to Jets at 10 is a common spot now.
Exactly. When you KNOW a team is specifically trying to move up for a particular player or position, you use that to your advantage. It's much easier to gauge in Round 1.
Well this is really interesting
Titans' Brian Callahan on Right Tackle, Inside Linebacker, Safety and Edge
Titans' Brian Callahan on Right Tackle, Inside Linebacker, Safety and Edge
This is a handy site, they use the point system NFL teams use as a guide for draft pick trades. You can see the picks for all teams and the corresponding point value.
2024 NFL Trade Value Chart
Again, it is just a guide but it helps when speculating on scenarios
Thanks for posting this good info. Surprised at the Radunz comment. Him and the guy from the redskins and brunskill should be a heckuva camp battle. Sounds like we may still be looking for two tackles? Peat and a pick?
