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How am I backpedaling? 14 days from the first player positive would be this upcoming Monday. I mean even if you went back to Bowen’s test it would he this Saturday.

I mean seriously the team reported guys had symptoms. Is this really that hard to understand?
By not answering the question and saying to look it up.

So will all the info, your conclusion is that Bowen spread it to the team after he started showing symptoms? (which I don't recall hearing if he did or didn't have symptoms. I'll take your word for it)
 
So who's to blame for this?

Bowen? Isiah Wilson? Minny bus driver?

My money is that either Bowen or that practice squad player we signed at the same time are patient zero. Combine that with looks to be lax enforcement of NFL protocols....

could be looking at who sort of different punishments for individual players/coaches or even the organization itself. I think one thing is for certain, Vrabel's claims that the team was compliant with the NFL COVID protocols is not likely to have been accurate.
 
By not answering the question and saying to look it up.

So will all the info, your conclusion is that Bowen spread it to the team after he started showing symptoms? (which I don't recall hearing if he did or didn't have symptoms. I'll take your word for it)

Ive posted PLENTY of info on here. You can go back and read it if you’d like. I’m not gonna keep posting the same stuff over and over when it’s been discussed time and time again.

I’m not saying Bowen spread it to every player. He only needed to spread it to one person. I’m using that as a timeline for the incubation period this virus supposedly has. Thus refuting that this is proof of asymptomatic transmission like you claimed.
 
So who's to blame for this?

Bowen? Isiah Wilson? Minny bus driver?

NFL has been quick to dish out punishments and fines to other teams this year for not following protocol. Kind of interesting that they haven’t done that here yet.

I think the issues they are coming across are being able to prove who all participated and who all knew about it.

But the NFL doesn’t have to answer to anyone so they could just drop the hammer with no real evidence of who was involved or who knew.
 
NFL has been quick to dish out punishments and fines to other teams this year for not following protocol. Kind of interesting that they haven’t done that here yet.

I think the issues they are coming across are being able to prove who all participated and who all knew about it.

But the NFL doesn’t have to answer to anyone so they could just drop the hammer with no real evidence of who was involved or who knew.

I agree, this is not as simple as the coaches not wearing masks or players going to a charity event where it was pretty easy to assign blame.
 
"Execs from multiple teams said it’s been an open secret that the Titans have not strictly enforced guidelines regarding masks within their facility. The execs said they knew this through conversations with Titans staffers predating the outbreak ... Saffold’s revelation raises another red flag, even if the practice session was held before an NFL memo was distributed explicitly banning such gatherings.



“Somewhere, there has to be some captains of the team who meet with the head coach and say they are thinking about doing this, and the coach says not to do it, that getting together in a big group probably is not a good idea,” an exec said.



It’s implausible, execs said, to think players organized a practice without anyone in the organization — a coach, an equipment manager, a trainer, etc. — knowing. The fact that players chose Montgomery Bell Academy, a prominent public venue, for their practice shows there was no attempt to conceal the session’s existence.



If the Titans did not enforce protocols, then there’s obviously a leadership deficiency at levels that would include the front office, the coaching staff, training staff and the team’s infection control officer. Execs thought the head coach would be most instrumental based on the role he plays in directly addressing players each day."



Execs Unfiltered: Harsh punishment for Titans if COVID-19 protocols ignored
 
So who's to blame for this?

Bowen? Isiah Wilson? Minny bus driver?
Who is to blame for the pats and chiefs cases? Can't be us too. Shit happens. The league makes shit up retroactively, I just roll my eyes at any punishment we receive. They acted like we were still playing the Steelers and then the players get blasted for practicing. It's nonsense.
 
Ive posted PLENTY of info on here. You can go back and read it if you’d like. I’m not gonna keep posting the same stuff over and over when it’s been discussed time and time again.

I’m not saying Bowen spread it to every player. He only needed to spread it to one person. I’m using that as a timeline for the incubation period this virus supposedly has. Thus refuting that this is proof of asymptomatic transmission like you claimed.
Yet you keep posting the same stuff over and over while delaying answering the question. So your answer is yes. You think people showing symptoms were still part of activities and teammates and personnel were cool being near them. So foolish of them.
 
What sort of punishment we looking at? Better not be a day 1/2 pick. If the axe comes down I will be very curious to see how the rest of the year unfolds with the remaining 31 clubs and if / when any outbreaks develop!
 
Yet you keep posting the same stuff over and over while delaying answering the question. So your answer is yes. You think people showing symptoms were still part of activities and teammates and personnel were cool being near them. So foolish of them.

You realize coughing is a symptom? A sneeze is a symptom. Just because they had “symptoms” doesn’t mean they were on their death bed.

I haven’t delayed answering any question. You just aren’t comprehending the conversation. Been saying the same thing over and over and over to you. It’s there. Just read it. If I asked you to name an asymptomatic player (which you didn’t) what am I implying about how the virus spread...?
 
"Execs from multiple teams said it’s been an open secret that the Titans have not strictly enforced guidelines regarding masks within their facility. The execs said they knew this through conversations with Titans staffers predating the outbreak ... Saffold’s revelation raises another red flag, even if the practice session was held before an NFL memo was distributed explicitly banning such gatherings.



“Somewhere, there has to be some captains of the team who meet with the head coach and say they are thinking about doing this, and the coach says not to do it, that getting together in a big group probably is not a good idea,” an exec said.



It’s implausible, execs said, to think players organized a practice without anyone in the organization — a coach, an equipment manager, a trainer, etc. — knowing. The fact that players chose Montgomery Bell Academy, a prominent public venue, for their practice shows there was no attempt to conceal the session’s existence.



If the Titans did not enforce protocols, then there’s obviously a leadership deficiency at levels that would include the front office, the coaching staff, training staff and the team’s infection control officer. Execs thought the head coach would be most instrumental based on the role he plays in directly addressing players each day."



Execs Unfiltered: Harsh punishment for Titans if COVID-19 protocols ignored
I’ll file this under, first team caught and it’s not me so I get to push any accident into blaming someone else.

my guess is they all knew this was inevitable and we’re willing to roll the dice it wouldn’t be their team first. For everyone except the titans, the rolled safely and can now attack, deflecting any possible blame they could get and limiting and future blame because they won’t be the only one.
 
Man. Vrabel is trying WAY too hard to do this whole Belichick thing.

Scandals and all. Making the team hated?

Guy goes all in.
Yeah not a good look, his arrogance making the organization look bad in the eyes of NFL fans. Non Titan fans I know were sympathetic last week but now with the new cases and reports of players disregarding COVID measures they think Titans deserve forfeit and loss of draft picks
 
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