how many of those games were malik starting after beginning 7-2, or dobbs starting off 1 week? and the rest are this year which was a wash to anyone with eyes to begin with
3-12 is 3-12
Now we're talking about how trash the coaches are. Per usual too. Lol
If Kraft wants Vrabel so bad, fleece the rub an tugger for a sweet deal
Ouch!
Deadass can't remember Vrabel smirking and high fiving unless it was for draft picks, which is what all coaches/GM's do during the draft?
I think you're trying to say Vrabel was in charge of all acquisitions other than trading AJ? Which idk how you draw that conclusion. We truly don't know how much input vrabel gets on the roster, and we have only had one year with Ran. So I don't think it's fair to put the current roster construction on Vrabel.
context matters and i'd say him being 7-3 prior to the most important position in sports going down means he was doing pretty ok
Liam Coen. Worked for the Rams under McVay for 4 years and was the OC for Kentucky in 2021 when Levis went off. When Coen left Kentucky in 2022 their offense plummeted. An offensive minded coach under the Shanahan tree who has brought the best out of Levis.
So he is ok as long as all the pieces are in place.....the honeymoon is over...he had a good run but he's in over his head
How many weapons does he need?
If he always has a built in excuse of not enough weapons, maybe it’s just him?
Love these THill arguments, I mean Vrabel arguments.
The reason your stat is BS, but also proves the point THill is trash is that Mahomes makes 37 pass attempts per game, Will Levis 34 and THill 26. Notice a difference? It’s a limited offense under THill, Under Levis we throw almost as much as the Chiefs.
10 wins a season is pretty freaking good actually.
Belichick 10.3 per year
Reid. 10.1
Payton. 9.6
Keeping in mind that time 3 coach won most of those games with HOF QBs while Vrabel in his short career has had a second tier guy with a bad GM and bad drafts.
Also none of those coaches have been shit without a HOF QB.
Good HCs look real good with talent and real bad without it.
Andy Reid was pretty good with McNabb and Alex Smith.
Kelly was an assistance coach with Vrabel in Houston.
They both got positions in 2014 with the Cows.
Tannehill started vs the Bengals, Eagles, Jags, and Chargers in 2022 and lost all 4 of those games. That 7-3 start was the result of a ridiculously east schedule, and reality caught up to them. Besides, in 2023 it took an injury to force him to play the best QB option. Inexcusable.
Vrabel's shot was in 2021 but he blew it by hiring an OC so predicable that opposing players were calling out our plays before they happened. He's never gonna get a chance that good again.
If we were offered a first and he was game, try and get more, and say thanks for your service.
Then why did we fire Fish Face who was at basically 9 (8.8) wins per season?
Also, Reid and Billy B have about a gazillion more seasons than Vrabel.
Only 2 games for Levis. 5 complete games for Tanne and he averaged 28 attempts/game over that 5. Even when we had a good offense in 2020, Tanne only averaged 30 attempts/game.
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